Talk:Chloe Sullivan

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Contents 1 Murderer 2 Chlois 3 Chloe's Birthday 4 Chloe's powers 4.1 Gone for good 5 Sidekick 6 Met U 7 Chloe's survival 8 Cleanup? 9 Jimbo 10 Chloe the Brainiac 11 Should ex's be included as part of family? 12 Chloe's Fate 13 1938 Sullivan

[edit] Murderer

Okay, honestly, I haven't seen the episode. But when Chloe touches Sebastian Kane, she overloads him with information, which according to the different sources I have read, either makes him brain dead or kills him. If the latter is true, shouldn't we label this as Murder? I mean, I know she did it to protect Clark, but she still killed a defenseless man in cold blood. Was this Brainiac? Should we call her a murderer on her own page? Later, she protects Davis, who she knows has killed numerous people even when he was not Doomsday, and even supposedly helped him get rid of a few of the bodies. So she's at least an accessory. That's all I'm saying, what are Your Thoughts?

Ollie clarifies that he did die in Bulletproof but Chloe states Brainiac was responsible. I don't think they will ever clarify how much influence Brainiac had over her, but I choose to focus on Chloe's instances of compassion for everyone, and stance on murder, seen in Combat, Plastique, Bulletproof, among others. She was not protecting Davis when he was killing others. She only started after Eternal, when he told her that he doesn't kill randomly when he's near her, and won't kill Clark if she stays with him. I think her reactions seen in Stiletto (crying) show that she's complying because she thinks she has no other choice. Marikology 02:45, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Davis is schizophrenic and his alternate personality is a serial killer. He only has four options available:

• Take drugs to prevent his alternate personality from taking control (He did this until it stopped working).
• Satiate his alternate personality out by killing murderers, serial drunk drivers, and serial killers (He did this until he was caught).
• Try to kill himself (He tried this, but he was immortal).
• Hang out with someone who suppresses your alternate schizo personality (This is what he's doing now).

Chloe was aware that he tried all these options, and that the only thing keeping him from killing was being around him. I think part of the reason she cried in Stiletto was that Davis had killed again, so even that wasn't working.

While Davis' options are limited, Chloe does have one more option: she could reach out to Oliver and/or Clark for help. I think she'll do that soon... I hope so, for her sake. Poor Chloe... she has such bad luck with relationships. :-( --Kanamekun 03:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Chlois

Recently someone added information about the "Chlois Theory", where some fans think that Chloe Sullivan will turn out to be the "real" Lois Lane. I'd heard of it before and I thought it was pretty interesting. However it has since been removed. So I figured I'd ask: Should the Chlois theory be included on the pages fo these two characters?

Yes- I think the theory is relavant to the show and the characters, adn as it was written was well-thought out and informative.Marikology 18:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

No - The revelation of the real Lois Lane makes the theory redundant. It was never approved by the producers of the show nor was it indicated in any aspect of the show. Also the characteristics of Lois Lane as portrayed by the comics and the movies - indifferent to Clark Kent, unaware of his real identity as Superman - are not in anyway possessed by Chloe Sullivan. --Moonweaver 15:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

That's a really good point, Moonweaver. While I'd love Chlark to be together forever, I agree that it won't happen. I just thought it was interesting, but in hindsight, it probably doesn't have enough evidence from the show to be on the wiki. Marikology 01:59, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

In the Season 5 book thing that recaps the whole season, they mention on the section about the episode starring Jimmy that's in black and White in the future that the Smallville writers didn't mention Chloe's name on purpose, so as to not debunk the theory. There's a homage to it in the official series. Aabicus 06:05, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

No - I beleive that this theory was more for seasons before Erica took the role, I even I beleived that Chloe was the real Lois Lane when she took the name as a pen name to publish stories. Then Erica came and changed everythng.

[edit] Chloe's Birthday

Just because the episode Spell aired on November 10 doesn't mean that's her actual birthday. There's nothing in the episode that states the specific date and there's no guanantee that every episode takes place in real time on the day it airs. Also, the episode covers at least 2 days, there is no way to know which date was her birthday. As far as the year, there is a continuity error, but it probably lies in the gravestone in Crusade. Lois states that Chloe is turning 18, and she's a high school senior- it's highly unlikely that Chloe stated her senior year at age 16. Marikology 17:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC) Also- in the deleted scenes, Chloe herself states "A girl waits her whole life to turn 18 and she can't even remember her own naked birthday party." So that's two lines of dialogue and convention that support my argument. Marikology 18:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chloe's powers

If her power is being able to heal others by transferring her "life-power" to others through tears, would her other bodily fluids have the same function?

Anyhow, is there any more speculative theories about her powers out there?

Mack stated in an interview that her power was "empathy", but so far, the show hasn't explained if her tears (or other bodily fluids) heal or if it's a transferrence of her feelings, and the tears were just incidental. We've listed her power as "healing tears" for now, since that is literally what was seen on the episode. Marikology 03:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with them saying Chloe only has the power to heal others and not herself. If Chloe was able to resist Brainiac's attack for any period of time and weaken him then she obviously has some ability to heal herself. I also believe given Chloe's history she has been seen to heal at a slightly acclereated rate. I mean come on she fell out of a fourth story window and all she got was a broken arm?? And of the many times she gets injuried she has no scars and they quickly heal. Of course that is just my speculation.--12.193.26.186 05:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

When it comes to her resurrection I believe that because the first time she was only healing/saving one life it took her 9 hours but the second time she was in fact saving Lex and Clark's life force's. If Lex had died then Clark would have died.

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There's no mention of her metahuman powers in the intro. Since her powers are so incredible, what do you think of adding a mention of them in the first graf or two? --Kanamekun 06:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gone for good

Even after Brainiac has been removed from Chloe, it doesn't seem like her healing power has returned. Surely if it had, she'd have saved Jimmy from months of painful recovery after Bride. It's been established that she will risk her life for her loved ones (well, Clark anyway) in Fracture and Odyssey. Additionally, I read somewhere that the producers said she'd "used up" her healing fighting off Brainiac. (I'm working on finding the link.) Thoughts? Marikology 15:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree. She would've saved Jimmy in 'Doomsday' if her powers were still active. I think she used them up against Brainiac (which I think is crap, I mean since when did meteor freaks run out of their ability?!?) But yeah, doesn't look like they're coming back.

[edit] Sidekick

I've noticed that the writers continually refer to Chloe's burgeoning career as a "sidekick":

Chloe: (to Clark) "I know how much you've dreamt of having a bland, generic, mundane life. Being normal is highly overrated. And besides, it makes my whole sidekick role easier if you can bring super duper strength to the table."

Season Five, Hidden

Oliver:: (to Chloe) Hey, let's just stick to the main plot, there, sidekick. So, what do you got?

Season Six, Justice

Chloe:: (to Clark) They're after both of us. Now, don't ditch your sidekick till you get your powers back. You might need me to cover you.

Season Six, Labyrinth

Chloe:: (to Clark) Already on it. See? Your sidekick isn't completely useless.

Season Six, Combat

And that's just seasons 5 and 6... I think she used sidekick even more times in Season 7!

Given all this, maybe we should work the word sidekick into her article a bit more? She's not just Clark's sidekick - she's becoming a professional sidekick to Oliver and the proto-JLA...

Just a thought - would love to hear what you guys think! --Kanamekun 07:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I totally agree, Chloe was always portrayed as a supporting character, with her superb hacking-information gathering-seducing innocent police officers skills she resembles Barbara Gordon/Oracle from Birds of Prey. Sidekick from me for that idea! Tehcrash 11:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Met U

Has there been any on air indication that Chloe is still at Met U? I can't remember any since Season 5... so am wondering if I missed something. --Kanamekun 05:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

So far, they've thrown a line in at the beginning of each season. There are a few in S6, I'll have to track them down, and there's one in Kara. Marikology 05:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah nice, tracked down the Kara quote:

Chloe: Actually, she doesn't work here. I do. I'm Chloe --

Gabriel Grant: (to Chloe, curtly cutting her off) Anne Sullivan, former editor of the Smallville High Torch, taking Met U. journalism classes by night while writing filler stories sandwiched between sofa ads by day.

I'll add it to the quotes and notes section! --Kanamekun 06:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chloe's survival

I've always had this theory that Chloe Sullivan bites the dust prematurely, given that she doesn't appear in Lois & Clark, the Reeve movies, or the comics. Thoughts? OneWeirdDude 21:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Chloe is a Smallville original, so she doesn't have a clear "destiny" like a lot of the other characters. Some people say she is destined to become the iconic Lois Lane character, with Clark falling in love with her. Other people say that she will grow less important now that Clark is in Metropolis, working side by side with the "real" Lois Lane.

Either way, I think it would a real betrayal if she was killed off. Chloe has been such a big part of the show, and the only character besides Clark to be a main character in all eight seasons so far. I love Smallville, but if they killed Chloe... I would stop watching. --Kanamekun 23:45, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

It wouldn't surprise me, but I would expect she might be one of the last characters killed off—thereafter appearing only in flashbacks and recordings, if there are any more episodes to make. That is, she dies sometime in the last season if not the very last episode, but she wouldn't completely disappear from the series until it was finally over.

Granted, I side with you on that last one: that if she left the cast there wouldn't be much point in continuing to watch. But if she dies, there's not much to be done about this, and I like trying to reconcile the various Superman universes. OneWeirdDude 21:27, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup?

Can someone please clean up the last season of plot summary for Chloe? An entire episode's summary has been added; that's just too much plot summary for a season-long synopsis. --Kanamekun 19:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jimbo

I didn't realize this until just now, but the opening of Chloe's article barely mentions that she's married to Jimmy Olsen! I'll take a crack at adding it in, but it's kinda interesting... I guess fandom is not behind the Chloe/Jimmy pairing. --Kanamekun 17:31, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

No comment. Marikology 17:38, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chloe the Brainiac

"People used to call Chloe Brainiac when she was a kid". I think that she only say this because she don´t remember what Brainiac want to mean and want to get ride of Clark sermon. Ror-El 19:38, 19 January 2009

She did say it though, and there weren't any caveats on the quote at the time she said it? --Kanamekun 23:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah! But later she reply Right? like if she is in fact don´t remember wath Brainiac is. Ror-El 19:42, 19 January 2009

Ah ok, I'll have to rewatch the episode. I think I added that trivia note, so I feel responsible for making sure it's accurate. Thanks for the heads up! --Kanamekun 00:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok! Don´t worry man! Ror-El 19:50, 19 January 2009

[edit] Should ex's be included as part of family?

There's been a revert war over whether or not Jimmy should be included in Chloe's infobox.

There's a site policy that ex's shouldn't be included in infoxes. It's tough because Lex was married three times: to Lana, to Helen Bryce and to Desiree (that one was annulled)... and even Clark was married, to Alicia Baker (although that one wasn't legal).

If it were up to me, I would like to include the more meaningful marriages in character templates (e.g. Lana and Lex, Jimmy and Chloe) but not the others... but that's a tricky line to draw. If I had to choose between having all marriages in the template or none of them... I'd choose none - but cover the marriages in the Notes sections.

Thoughts? --Kanamekun 18:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't see why this rule needs to be changed simply for Chloe and Jimmy. I would argue that Lex's marriage to Helen was a lot more meaningful than his to Lana, so if we don't include all of them, we shouldn't include any of them. Marikology 23:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Just to be clear... I support *not* including ex-spouses on character infoboxes, as per the site policy. I opened this discussion because there was a revert war going on this and Jimmy's page, and I thought a discussion might be more productive than reverting back and forth! --Kanamekun 23:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

We are on accord. I support *not* including ex-spouses, and keeping the site policy intact, as well. Marikology 23:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Chloe's Fate

I can confirm that Chloe will leave or die by the end of season 9. Alison Mack has saaid she will leave smallville after season 9--NatDuv 04:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

We can't go by spoilers... so as soon as she dies, we'll put it on the wiki! --Kanamekun 05:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Or the show could get canceled and she'll neither leave or die, and get her happy ending. They don't call it the Friday Night Death Slot for no reason. Marikology 23:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] 1938 Sullivan

I wonder if there is any relation to Chloe Sullivan, and Lois and Clark's future apartment at 1938 Sullivan. It makes some sense, right? By the way, I am General Rod-El, or Rodserling, I just couldn't sign in, but I'll fix it later.