Talk:Clark Kent

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Contents 1 Clark's age 1.1 Is he really that young? 2 Reorder Article 3 Personality 4 In the know 5 Split "Powers and Abilities" 6 College Dropout 7 Capitalization 8 Super-Stamina 9 Clark 10 First? 11 Metahuman 12 Clark's main picture 13 The Last Son of Krypton. 14 traveler? 15 who keeps deleting stuff 16 Speculation: How Much More? 17 Clark/Tess 18 Profile Pic

[edit] Clark's age

According to the show's dialogue, Clark is currently 21 years old in Earth years. His birthday is established to be at the end of the season (Oracle indicated it is in May), and he is stated to be 17 at the beginning of Season 4 (in Run) and 18 at the beginning of Season 5 (in Hidden and Aqua). Additionally, Lois remarked he would get a "virgin" cocktail in Hydro but he is "legal [to drink]" (aged 21) in Apocalypse. Ergo, he was 14 in Season 1, 20 at the beginning of Season 7, and has just turned 21. If you know of any dialogue or on-screen indication that contradicts this, please include it here. Marikology 22:30, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I previously wrote that that Clark seems less mature than his friends (my opinion, so I removed it), and someone added this:

It should be stated, however, that Clark's birthday was a date that the Kents picked randomly from a calendar to put on official paper work regarding Clark, rather than his actual date of birth, so there is a 50/50 chance that Clark is actually older than Lana or any of his other peers. In addition, all arguments about levels of emotional maturity aside, even back in the pilot episode Clark was physically very well developed for someone who had only turned fourteen three or four months earlier. He is already noticeably over six feet tall (Tom Welling is 6'2.5") and when shown without a shirt while hung out as the scarecrow he shows a surprisingly defined and developed musculature/physique for a fourteen year old. User: 204.228.86.104

which is very true. (It's basically a running joke that Tom Welling is supposed to be a high school freshman in S1- yeah right!). But, Clark *believes* he is a certain Earth age, and is treated by others around him as a certain age, so I think this mindset would have more bearing and insight into his actions than his actual Kryptonian age. And his physique is hard to use as argument either way since, he's... uh, Kryptonian, and is taller and more developed than most grown men. Anyway, I moved it to discuss, instead of in Trivia. Marikology 02:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

He appeared to be a little older than a toddler in the pilot episode, so in Season 1, Clark may actually be 19 or 20 in human years, not taking lightspeed travel into account. In that sense, he may be hundreds of years old due to relativity.) User:24.30.154.48

Plus, y'know, it's television, where actors in their twenties (or more) regularly portray high schoolers. I mean, look at 90210, or Sabrina the "teenage" witch. --Noclevername 22:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC);)

[edit] Is he really that young?

Was Clark really 14 when he found out that he was an alien? Because why would Lex buy him a car if he was only 14? I also don't understand why Clark is able to drive during season one if he's supposed to be a high school freshman?

I wondered about the driving thing too, but apparently that's common in rural farm communities, but he is indeed 19. I watched Seasons 1-5 in about six weeks, and he started off as a freshman, and was in college by season 5, and they state his age a few times along the way, so it's consistant, not like a soap opera or anything where he's 16 for three years. Marikology 03:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC) I also remembered that at the end of season 1, Chloe drove them to the Spring Formal, and Lana drove Whitney to the bus station, and they were 15 at the time, so I guess Smallville really doesn't care about underage drivers! Marikology 20:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reorder Article

Can't... stop... wiki-ing! I changed the order of the page. I figured it would make more sense to have the informative info up top, then the more narrative plot description further down the page. Marikology 04:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personality

For the trivia section, suggestions for other random things about Clark are welcome! Marikology 22:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I included a personality section. As it's pretty-much my observations, feel free to change anything that is too POV. Marikology 02:45, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I think that's a great idea and a pretty good list to start with. The older Smallville Torch site had cute tidbits about him such as being a member of the key club (hehe) and his participation in the fair, which can still be found here but the show itself has never mentioned these things and the page isn't even accessible without a direct link anymore. Perhaps something about Clark's ability to always find the good in people and his willingness to trust people (even to a fault!). I don't know... but I'll definitely check back here if I can think of anything else. Your list is pretty thorough as it is though. ~ Nik-El 00:51, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In the know

I think it would be good to have a listing of all those who know of Clark's abilities, and when they knew it (is there allready such a list somewhere?) - 07:04, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I love the idea. We could call it Witnessess. On one of the episode length commentaries, the creators talked about how they have to be careful to kill off everyone that witnesses Clark's powers. It would fun to keep track of how well they do. -Samantha's Mom 11:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree, but I think a category would be the best way to make the list. Marikology 15:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Split "Powers and Abilities"

I recall wikipedia having a very nice article about Clark's powers and abilities in the past, but most of it got lost after merging with the original Clark article there. So my idea would be to resurrect the page in a new article that would contain some more information, sorted by seasons the powers developed in. For example it would be nice to see it clearly stated that he could jump on an ICBM in season 5 or that his speed greatly improved between season 1 (where Jonathan is actually seen falling, although slowly, while Clark was running to save him in the Pilot) and season 4 (where he could run so fast that he managed to save Chloe in Jinx and still return to his previous location, in the middle of a football game, without anybody noticing). SFilip 17:42, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Split- I think that would be a good idea. But I think we should keep the original segment in this article, but reduce the paragraphs to a sentence or two, and transfer the other details to a new article. But if so, what should it be called? Is Clark Kent's powers and abilities too long? Marikology 20:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I had an old version of the wikipedia article SFilip was talking about, and posted it on the page you suggested. Even if you guys decide to start over fresh or scrap the idea all together, it's still an interesting page that you might enjoy. 12.215.150.107 04:55, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I love that line, the use of the word "bust" : "...busted the dining room table in half."

Reduce: I tried my hand at reducing each paragraph in the Powers and Abilities section to a sentence or two, but I'm not entirely pleased with the results. I knocked it down from about 765 words to 475 words, but I would be happier if approached 150 words. I tried to create some parallelism between the paragraphs, but I don't think it flows very well. I look forward to seeing what other contributors can do with it. I know this is a popular page. -Samantha's Mom 20:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

OK I worked on the sections some as well. I think the vulnerability part looks good, but the powers section is a monster. I'm going to move the paragraphs that were there to the other page, so that'll help reduce each power to one sentence. I added the bullet points just cos I think they make it easier to read, but whatever. Marikology 23:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] College Dropout

Clark hasn't gone to school since his father died, almost a full year ago, so I suppose we should change the Season 6 heading from "CKU year two", but I can't think of an appropriate replacement. Or we could hold out till the end of season 6, maybe he'll go back next semester? Marikology 04:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization

It might be "consistent with other characters, and is more aesthetically-pleasing" to capitalize words such as "mother," "father," "strength" and "alive," but unless they are at the beginning of a sentence, then it is not correct. I know a lot people think that you are supposed to capitalize the first word after a colon, but that is not correct either. We can correct it now or we can correct it later, but I think its bet that we don't make up our own language for these pages. I think American English will work best. -Samantha's Mom 02:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Nobody's trying to "make up a language" and it's not capitalized because it's correct English. But that's how all the characters are, that's how they were before I got here, so the consensus must be that it simply looks better, and I happen to agree. Lowercase looks sloppy and incomplete. Marikology 05:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

My apologies. I was raised on the Chicago Manual of Style to disdain excessive capitalization. Far from "looking better," it grates on me to see common nouns capitalized as if they were proper nouns. I guess I'm a meteor freak when it comes to grammar. However, while perusing the Manual of Style tonight (looking for amunition to press my case), I learned that this is not actually a matter of grammar (since these words are not sentences), but it is a matter of style, and although I'm not fond of the "house style," it is what it is, and I won't fuss about it any further. -Samantha's Mom 09:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

• I disagree, I belive that british english is a better choice as more people world wide read and write it than american english! -- Awar 01:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC).

The show, while shot in Canada, is an American production marketed primarily to an American audience, and the setting is in America. It seems consistent to use American spelling. --Noclevername 22:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Super-Stamina

I added this to Clark's abilities because he can run from Smallville to Metropolis without beaking a sweat or running out of breath. He also doesn't need rest when helping rebuild Metropolis after Dark Thursday and working full time on the farm. - Ryan Steele 18 October 2007

[edit] Clark

i really liked this article and it some very interesting things on it

[edit] First?

Under Trivia, it states Clark's first known power was super-speed, but he's described several times as demonstrating super-strength even as a child. Super-speed was just the first power he was shown onscreen using. Unless there's some canon evidence, I'll take it out. --Noclevername 05:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah great point! Would you mind leaving it in, but specifying that super-speed is his first onscreen power? And maybe adding the bit about how he used super-strength as a child? --Kanamekun 06:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. --Noclevername 22:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

In Transference, Clark, while in Lionel's body, tells Martha, "Remember when I was 6, and I was playing tag with Dad, and all of a sudden I started running faster than I'd ever run before, and I was in the middle of Palmer Woods, completely lost." I think that that's what the trivia was talking about. However, it's impossible to know for certain which power was Clark's first, since several characters mention that Clark was strong when he was young. I think it's best to remove the note. --Stressed dessert 19:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Metahuman

Since he's not human, why is he listed as a metahuman? No other alien character are. I think since he's already in the aliens category, adding him to the benevolent metahumans category is overkill. --Noclevername 06:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe the word metahuman is a DC Comics term that's meant to apply to anyone with super powers? [1] --Kanamekun 13:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, "metahuman" means "beyond human", which fits Clark perfectly. --Stressed dessert 19:33, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Should we add the other super-powered alien characters to that category? --Noclevername 19:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I guess so. I don't strongly oppose not adding them, so it doesn't matter that much to me. --Stressed dessert 19:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clark's main picture

Please do not engage in a revert war over Clark's main profile picture. I actually don't think either image is particularly great, but that's just my opinion. Can we field some suggestions for possible main profile pics? If we can find one that's good, we can build a consensus and then swap out the profile pic for a new one. --Kanamekun 05:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I changed back before I saw this section :-/ BatteryB7 07:24, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Okey, Im really getting tired of Nicholsy's horroble picture's. BatteryB7 14:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know who swapped out the picture, but I agree that it's not the best pic. Feel free to propose (or swap in) some new ones? --Kanamekun 15:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

This One - Swedish-El

I think the promo pic wich i posted here now should be the main picture as it was a few days ago 'til Marikology changed it to some pic from Legion. But i dunno if that's some tradition you have to change it after every episode.--Swedish-El 16:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

It can be but doesn't need to be changed after every episode, but it should be a screencap, of the actual character, and not the actor, which is why we don't use the promo pics. Marikology 16:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Last Son of Krypton.

I was wondering about the first sentence of Clark's article: "Clark Kent is the Last Son of Krypton."

I don't think that that phrase "last son of Krypton" has ever been used on the show? (at least in the first six seasons: [2]). There have been a number of male Kryptonians (i.e. other "last sons") who also survived Krypton's explosion - although Zod, Dax-Ur, and Nam-Ek were all subsequently killed or banished (it's not always clear).

But still, just wondering if we should start off Clark's page with a statement that (to my knowledge) hasn't been uttered or confirmed on the air? If I'm wrong about that though, happy to leave it there! --Kanamekun 06:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I stand corrected, Jor-El said this in the Season 2 finale!

Jor-El: I am his memory, his will. I am to fulfill his promise and guide you all the days of your life. You are the last son of Krypton.

Still, not sure we want to lead with that... will think some more about other possible intros. --Kanamekun 03:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

If Zod is really going to show up next season, Clark is really no longer the last son of Krypton. I'll brainstorm some possible replacements... please chime in if any ideas come to mind! --Kanamekun 20:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I replaced "Clark Kent is the Last Son of Krypton" with this: "Clark Kent is a super powered alien from the planet Krypton, who lives in Smallville and works in Metropolis as a reporter at the Daily Planet. He also secretly fights crime, currently moonlighting as a vigilante known as the Red-Blue Blur. "

Feel free to edit! --Kanamekun 22:38, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] traveler?

Perhaps it is Jor-el who is the traveler. that would explain how the fortress was destroyed, clark is stripped of his powers in the beginning of season 8, and why clark isnt under lex's control.

[edit] who keeps deleting stuff

will Clark Kent ever be able to fly?

[edit] Speculation: How Much More?

Okay, they are going to do season nine, after working at the Daily Planet and has begun creating a dual identity, it begs the question, what else could could Clark do? He's saving lives on a daily basis. And it's been rumored that there might also be a season ten. I'm excited, but overly curious on how they could pull it off. There is not much else to do with the character. I mean with all the things Clark is doing latly, with or without the costume he is practiclly Superman. What is he missing? Does anyone have any good ideas, things that would forshadow or make him more like Superman, other than the tights.

mabye having a more active role in the Justice League.

My guess, they are going to add some new abilities, like arctic breath. Probably, we're also going to see dark Clark again, except without Red-K. I've also read that Tess is going to develop feelings for Clark, but this could be done either really well or terribly, depending on whose writing it and how creative they are. We might see a repeat of Season Two Clark/Chloe style, except with Clark/Tess which would probably be terrible. When the writers get desperate for ideas, they seem to fall back on continually introducing more characters from the comics, so we will probably see more returns and/or new one-time characters, who are just as cliche and unoriginal.But, who knows, they may pull a rabbit out of their hats and gives us something new and exciting.

[edit] Clark/Tess

That could suck or could be really interesting, it's one thing to gain feelings for a co-worker(Lois),But a completley different ball game to see what happens betwween Employee and Employer, like Lois and Grant.

• Personally, I'd love to see that. We haven't really seen Clark have feelings for a person he knows he shouldn't feel for. I mean, the Alica thing was kind of like that, but not quite. Also, it would be very interesting to see Tess develop feelings for him. I mean, we saw she had an attraction to Oliver, but that was almost entirely sexual. We haven't seen her get a real emotional connection except with Lex, which was just weird.

[edit] Profile Pic

Can someone swap out the promotional pic for a picture of Clark fighting crime as the Blur? There's a picture linked in the Season 9 section, but it's a bit grainy and dark... --Kanamekun 11:42, October 2, 2009 (UTC)