Talk:Davis Bloome

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Contents 1 Davis vs Doomsday 1.1 With regards to which name to reference 1.2 With regards to the page name on the site 2 Splitting Page 3 Come on!!! 4 amendment to the in the comics.. 5 So basically Smallville will turn Doomsady into the Hulk? 6 Changed profession 7 Moved Speculation 8 Deletion 9 Please remove speculation 10 Ideas on Doomsday's powers and appearence! 11 Is Davis Faora and Zod's son? 12 Who is stronger? 13 Davis has a healing factor? 14 Origins of Doomsday 15 Picture 16 I dont get it 17 Charcter Quote 18 question 19 The Doomsday Page 20 Davis is Doomsday 21 What happened to the Comic book vesion of Doomsday? 22 Physical Appearance

[edit] Davis vs Doomsday

This discussion has two parts-- how and when to refer to Davis or Doomsday on the site, and this particular article's name. If you are so inclined, please contribute an opinion.

[edit] With regards to which name to reference

It's safe to assume that in Abyss, Brainiac was referring to the monster when he said "Doomsday is coming." This episode marks the first onscreen indication that the monster that Davis turns into is called Doomsday. However, as of Bride, the other characters had yet to find out that that's his name, or that he is Davis Bloome. Clark and Davis learn the creature is called Doomsday in Legion. Chloe indicated she knows in Infamous. Therefore, Editors please refrain from using the term Doomsday in episode articles before Legion or on character pages other than Brainiac, Davis, Clark and Chloe, who are all aware that the creature is Doomsday.

It's like kryptonite vs meteor rock situation. Clearly they are the same thing, but a character like Lois Lane should not be used in conjunction with the term kryptonite because having no knowledge of it, she would never reference it as such.

Please use Davis Bloome when referring to all appearances of Sam Witwer, even if he is in the process of transforming.

[edit] With regards to the page name on the site

In my opinion, the page should be called Doomsday with a Davis section inside because Davis isn't a real person just camoflauge for Doomsday until he has fully evolved. So therefore Doomsday is the dominant persona just like Martian Manhunter. To put it easier, we don't rename Clark's page Kal because of a red K episode or because the Legion referred to him as that name. Doomsday is Doomsday and Davis is a made up person.Ewokteddy 14:45, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I see your point, but it's tricky. Doomsday is dominant in that Davis has no control over him. According to canon (Brainiac/Faora explaining that Davis masked the monster), you're right. But he was introduced as Davis, the other characters know him as such, he spends most of his time as Davis, and from a more reality-based standpoint, Davis Bloome is his "citizen" identity, you know? So it can be argued that Davis is the dominant personality in that sense. Marikology 03:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

This is a delima, even more tricky than the Clark/Kal-El debate. People are starting to rewrite the page like Davis is just a disguise of Doomsday. Even though it's more like a Dr. Jekyll and M. Hide sitation. Elbutler 15:29, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Davis is just a disguise for Doomsday until he is strong enough to destroy earth that is the point of Davis. Davis is slowly fading away as Doomsday becomes stronger that is his stroyline throughout Season 8 and soon he will perminantly become Doomsday and Davis will be no more.Ewokteddy 16:19, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

That point is not being argued, because that's how Brainiac and Faora explained was the plan for him. However, as far as what has happened so far on the actual show, that is not guaranteed. Davis did not get to complete his "cook time" in Legion and is still Davis, still actively fighting to keep from turning into Doomsday. We don't yet know if he will succeed in this. Until SW playing Davis is completely gone, I think Davis is the dominant personality, for the reasons I detailed above. That said, you cannot continue to change it just because you think it's correct. The site details what has already happened on the show. Marikology 16:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Splitting Page

I believe that the two characters should be split into seperate pages i have already done this on my sandbox and it works well as they are different characters and plus they were seperated. What do admin think and also other wikia users? CommanderConnor 11:53, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

The characters weren't split until the last few minutes of the last episode... as opposed to the rest of the entire season. Also - what would the difference be between a Davis and a Doomsday page? We could potentially incorporate those differences into the existing Davis page - for example, we could have the appearances section list appearances for both Davis and for Doomsday. --Kanamekun 15:45, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Doomsday is now seperate being from Davis Doomsday is likely to show up again so therefore it will have nothing to do with Davis Bloome who is no longer alie. Plus, Davis doesn't know what happens when Doomsday emerged throughout the season and so it was like two seperate characters already but in one. Now they are two bodies, they are seperate characters so therefore should warrant a page split. We can't seriously continue to call Doomsday Davis Bloome can we, give him a little respect. CommanderConnor 10:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

If Doomsday appears again, we can consider splitting the page into two. --Kanamekun 14:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Well personally I think that we should have a comminuty vote and then the side with the most votes will win by popular demand.

• YES - Doomsday is no longer part of Davis no more and has no need for him plus Davis is dead so the pages should be split. CommanderConnor 12:27, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

• YES - Doomsday and Davis are two different beings. Doomsday is traped under the earth and Davis is dead--68.199.250.248 23:27, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

• NO - Davis was introduced as Doomsday. They were the same person throughout the season and were only divided for a few minutes in the season finale. Davis' past is Doomsday's and Doomsday's motivation to take Chloe is Bride is linked to Davis' relationship with her. It just makes more sense to keep them together. Clarkloisforever 15:15, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Doomsday took Chloe because of Brainiac controlling him not because Davis loved Chloe, this isn't Beauty and the beast. Brainiac needed a host body and chose Chloe because he knew Clark wouldn't harm her. And more like half of the episode plus Doomsday is likely to show up again maybe in the Season 9 finale and i don't think we will be calling him Davis Bloome will we..no we will call him Doomsday.

• NO - They are the same person 195.93.21.42 11:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Clearly they are not the same person as one is trapped underground and the other is dead.

Doomsday's motivation was because Brainiac was controlling him and was using Davis as a pawn as Brainiac saw them s seperate beings as should we. Davis was just a disguise that was taken off therefore is not needed for the Beast. CommanderConnor 20:19, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Come on!!!

Do you Kanamekun have something against me? First I try to make a page about Doomsday, deleted. Then I try to type a paragraph about the episode Bloodline in Davis Bloone's page and you delete it. I'm new and I want to contribute something. Panman3000

Hey! Sorry, nothing personal... we don't have separate pages for Superhero and Human personas (e.g. Oliver Queen and Green Arrow are on the same page). As for the new section about Bloodline, we don't generally create sections about just an episode. It may help to read the Policies link in the sidebar? That has lots of helpful tips :-). --Kanamekun 02:51, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] amendment to the in the comics..

whoever was writing that described the animated movie not what happened in the comics. Doomsday broke free from several thousands of years of wear and tear on his restraints, and he did so on his own not freed by lex corp.

since it appears he'll be a paramedic a joke on Doomsday would be Dr. Doomsday who was created when they mixed Marvel and DC heroes together. in that series they mixed Captain America and Superman to create Super Soldier.. and they mixed Dr. Doom and Doomsday to make... Dr. Doomsday :) kind of a side joke i guess >.>

-Sinjun

[edit] So basically Smallville will turn Doomsady into the Hulk?

Ordinary guy turns into unstoppable monster?

-G

[edit] Changed profession

So he's no longer a bartender, it seems. I wonder if they changed it because everyone was making fun of "Doomtender"? But actually, it's probably because since Ollie is coming back, they need to turn the Ace of Clubs set back into Queen Tower. Marikology 20:09, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Damn, you're good... great point! --Kanamekun 21:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

• I tought initially when announced that he wasn't a bartender any more was because the producers of the show maybe watched Dexter or something and thought, hmm, Doomsday kills a lot of people and having Davis Bloome as a paramedic would be sweet, who would suspect one of those as a world destroying monster. Marikology's point is also good but ii feel that it is a combination of both because i feel the Ace of Clubs will still feature in Season 8 as a place where we will see a lot of Lois and Jimmy and possibly Clark.Nicholsy 23:21, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moved Speculation

• Also, it is believed that Bloome's darker side (Doomsday) will be sort of like a Jeckll and Hyde character with 2 personalities and will eventually settle with Doomsday in the Season 8 Finale where he will battle Clark.

[edit] Deletion

THIS IS AN OLD DISCUSSION. THE PAGE IS NO LONGER UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR DELETION.

• Delete - yes - Doomsday has yet to appear on the show, and the information here focuses on his comics incarnation. --Kanamekun 18:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree, it is irrelevant to the show because he has not appeared. However, the comics info can be good for when he does. I fear that as soon as it's deleted, someone else will create a new one. I won't delete it just yet, but I'm going to put a disclaimer, and possibly protect the page. Then when he appears, the info can be restored. Marikology 18:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

• Deletion - no - We have always somehow seemed to create pages for characaters announced before seasons have aired. Take Kara, Dax-Ur, and The Black Canary for example. Her page was created before Season 7 began. I say no, the page should not be deleted. What I don't understand is why we are having this discussion when we have articles such as Batman who doesn't exist yet yet we don't argue over that article, and when Doomsday comes into the picture, we do.

I also don't understand why a comics section cannot be added. Must I use Dinah Lance or Kara as an example again? Sorry guys.... I'm just a fan with really strong opinions when it comes to Smallville.... yeah. Sorry If I was harsh. Didn't mean to be. Troy 20:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps I should clarify: I don't think it should be deleted because we DO know he's going to be on the show, and we will just spend all summer deleting it over and over cos people will keep restoring it. However, we know NOTHING about him yet, because he hasn't appeared. I think the comics section is useful, but not until we have something to compare it to. This won't happen until he appears. Most likely, we will get more and more details over the summer, and these can be added here, but otherwise it's just speculation. Marikology 01:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

• I agree with Troy. Why should this page be any different from Batman's or Wonder Woman's page? They are both not on the show and yet we have pages on them. This is even more important because Doomsday is actually coming to the show next season! So I say keep it.

The Batman/Wonder Woman pages are an exception: I have always argued that they don't belong on the wiki, but I have been outvoted several times, so I just waved the white flag. This is a different argument because Doomsday WILL appear. Marikology 01:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

• I see where You are coming from Marikology. As you know, I've always been the one to contradict articles or something like that, so I don't have room to talk. So... I know we have to wait a few days, but i thought I should get your opinion on whether or not we should include something about the new details on the new Davis Bloome, who by the description sounds like the alter ego for Doomsday? Ex: "It has been speculated by fans that the new season eight main character, Davis Bloome, is the alter-ego of Doomsday. Or something like that. Anyway, thank you for pointing that out. Troy 02:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC) (Vezz801)

• I'm the one who created this page!!! I was working on it for thirty minutes whole when suddenly it's up for deletion. It is apparent that Davis Bloone is Doomsday. Every time Doomsday dies, he grows an immunity to the cause of death. They just proved it on the episode Bloodline. Davis can't avoid his destiny: to fight and kill Superman. (Panman3000)

[edit] Please remove speculation

There is a huge amount of speculation in the Powers and Abilities + Vulnerabilities section. Please move it to the talk page. You can describe Doomsday's powers/vulnerabilities in the comics in the "In the Comics" section... --Kanamekun 01:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

There is still a lot of speculation about Davis' powers in the powers section. I don't want to remove it all though, because some of it is directional Anyone have the exact quotes where Faora talks about Davis' abilities? That would help us identify exactly what his powers are... --Kanamekun 08:14, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ideas on Doomsday's powers and appearence!

I am pretty sure that like most villains on the show he will have superhuman strength, but in order to make him a match for Clark they would have to give him an extremely high level of speed and invulnerability as well as a healing factor.

As for an idea on his physical appearance, whenever Davis changes into Doomsday, his eyes will turn from brown to red colored. Whenever he isn't in his paramedic uniform, he will wear green and gray cloths like the comic book version.

Just some thoughts about the character.

-UMX

I was able to make a pretty good skecth of him based on his body shape in Bride, the parts covered by shadow,and his appearence in the comics. He also probably does like the hulk and wears shreded Pants as scene in Legion when davis's pants where still on but torn up.

[edit] Is Davis Faora and Zod's son?

I just saw the extended trailer for Bloodline and I saw Lois, presumably possessed by Faora, call Davis her son. What do you all think?

Wow, interesting. I can't see Faora's son being all bony though. Maybe she got banished to the Zone for adopting the bony Doomsday as her pet?! --Kanamekun 07:44, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Who is stronger?

When I saw Bride,Doomsday threw clark like the way Aldar threw clark on Static. It would be insane to put Doomsday Versus The Justice Leauge

[edit] Davis has a healing factor?

I don't remember this. He can resurrect himself... and when he does, he is healed and now immune to whatever killed him. But can he heal himself without dying first? If not, then his healing factor can be combined into the description of his resurrection power... --Kanamekun 00:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Origins of Doomsday

Brainiac knows about Doomsday. He could've gone back in time to Krypton 1989 to attach Zod and Faora's creation to baby Kal El's ship.

Because I can't see any other way that the "genetic matter" Faora explained could've been attached to Kal El's ship. Jor El wouldn't have let Zod or Faora anywhere near it, and besides, they were both in the Phantom Zone.

So my theory is that Brainiac went back in time to Krypton not just to kill Clark as a baby but to send Doomsday to earth via Clark's ship

I agree! But then how did Faora know that her son had been sent to Earth? Not sure how Brainiac could have got that message to her... --Kanamekun 04:10, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Brainiac and Zod probably made the plans before krypron's destruction or maybe one of the disciples or another Phantom zone criminal encountered Davis (off screen) while they were on earth. --NatDuv10:18, 01 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

• When davis change permanetly to doomsday his pictur should be change , he is DOOMSDAY after all

[edit] I dont get it

• Doomsday is known for be the guy that kills SUPERMAN , not clark kent , this sucks

will Davis Bloome permanetly become Doomsday?

[edit] Charcter Quote

I noticed that most charcter pages on this wiki have a quote at the top of that page that describes the charcter. Doomsday/Davis doesnt have a quote. What do you think it should be? I was thinking of that quote in Bloodline; "That wich kills you makes you stronger." Forecharmer

[edit] question

• What would happen if davis/doomsday was exposed to red kryptonite, could that result in zanny hijinks??

[edit] The Doomsday Page

What happened to Doomsday's page? Why does it keep getting deleted?He is no longer part of Davis,so he should have his own page. SuperBlahBlah

Check out the Splitting Page discussion above [1]... feel free to chime in! --Kanamekun 06:16, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Davis is Doomsday

Black kryptonite was always the cure, but when Clark finally got the idea to use it, it was to late. When they said that the transformation has begun, it meant more than physaclly, it meant mentally as well. In Turbulance, Davis began killing to controll the beast, not to mention he was killing crimanls. But then there's the finale, his broken heart made him a real killer. Doomsday is pure evil, Davis is the Dark side of humanity. The side that can be corrupted by pure evil. There was nothing left to save.

[edit] What happened to the Comic book vesion of Doomsday?

I was recentlly checking Davis's page and noticed that the part about his comic book counterpart is missing. What happened?

[edit] Physical Appearance

I noticed that there's only a description of Davis, but not one for Doomsday.

I do remember there was a description for Doomsday months ago -- what happened to it?

Kalel32688 00:39, 30 August 2009 (UTC)