DC Trinity[]
This section talks about Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Cyborg, and Martian Manhunter. I think of 3 when I hear trinity. Is the DC Trinity some specific comic group? Without knowing I'd guess it meant Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman. If that's the case most of that information doesn't belong in this section. LanaIsDead 19:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
What does this have to do with Smallville? — Scott (talk) 00:50, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
A few times in the show, the characters have hinted at the league. Arthur Curry aka Aquaman says "Maybe we should start up a Junior Lifeguard Association or something." And Clark replied "I'm not sure I'm ready for the JLA quite yet." Also, in the episode Run, Bart Allen aka The Flash says (to Clark), "Maybe start up a club or a league or something." Superclark 01:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I think Clark encountering these fellow metahuman heroes helps him not to worry about the world's problems. I think, post-Smallville,he will eventually join the JLA (duh) after he grows into his role of Superman. Gough and Millar have said that Clark in Smallville will not join the league that Ollie Queen will form in season 6. It's very important in Clark's journey, IMO.
Trinity is a story about Superman and Batman first meeting Wonder Woman. It only stands for those 3. Due to them not being founding members of the team after the reboot in 1985/86, this story told how Superman and Batman met Wonder Woman while Green Lantern, Black Canary, Flash, and Martian Manhunter made the JLA. BTW: Cyborg is only a member of the JLA in the show. He's a member of the second team of Teen Titans in the comics. I think there is a time, though, that Cyborg joined the team when he grew older and left the Teen Titans much like some of the other older members did.
Batman and Wonder Woman were not always founding members or members period of the JLA. Cyborg is a member of the recent JLA as well as the Superfriends JLA
Do we really need this page! - MIK-EL
Smallville Justice League[]
This article is a bit weird... it describes the Superman Justice League, and then works in the details of the Smallville proto-league (which never actually uses this name).
I'd like to rework the article to focus on the Smallville version of the Justice League, and move the comic details into an "In the comics" section. Although if we do that - then is it weird to have the article named "Justice League"? --Kanamekun 16:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- They haven't said it on the screen, but all the cast/producer interviews have called it that, and the episode is called "Justice", which is why the page gets away with being called "Justice League", (and a note is/should be included that specifies they haven't named themselves yet). Usually, editors have been careful to call it QU's hero team or something more neutral in other articles. In any case, I agree, it could use some re-working. Marikology 18:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
I too think the name needs to be changed with information moved. Maybe we can call it "Oliver's Justice Team" or something.
diana prince on smallville?[]
In the season 8 premiere who was the Diana on the proto-JLA team?She was shown 2-3 times throughout and was at the last meet between Clark, Oliver, Arthur and Diana. Is this not Wonder Woman and was she introduced in season 7? The one article clearly states that due to negotiations in progress neither WW or Batman will make an appearance.
- Do you mean, Black Canary/Dinah Lance? --Kanamekun 19:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
This isn't Wonder Woman. Dinah Lance was introduced in season 7 in the episode "Siren". She is Black Canary. Later, in the comics, she marries Green Arrow.
Black Canary pic[]
Was she a member of Justice League when she used her powers in that pic? --Kanamekun 20:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Bloodline?[]
JL appeared in Bloodline? I don't remember that... can someone refresh my memory on that one? --Kanamekun 19:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The only reason they said the JlA was in bloodline is because Clark, Chloe and Oliver all appeared in that episode.
What counts as a Justice League appearance[]
A fair amount of Season 8 info on the JL was removed recently. An editor pointed out (rightfully so, I think) that it takes more than an Oliver Queen appearance to say that the Justice League appeared or was mentioned on the show.
That said though, I remember in one episode (Identity?) Oliver said that he was going to have a summit in Europe with the JL. I thought that should count as a mention.
In another episode, Oliver and Chloe teamed up to save Clark from the Phantom Zone. Even though all three of them are JL members of a sort, I don't think that should count as a JL mention. Same goes for any appearance of Martian Manhunter (especially since he's not a member on Smallville yet).
Basically if there is an explicit mention of the JL, I think that's a "Mentioned only" reference. Other than that, actual members of the JL needs to be on screen and talking about the League in order to count as an appearance.
Does that sound about right? Any differences of opinion are welcome! --Kanamekun 16:04, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with this. If i remember, this used to be my idea, and that Nicholsy is the one who added this (And i've got diffs to back it up: [1], [2]). Maybe Nicholsy should give his opinion? Elbutler 16:56, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that the team or at least, team goals need to be mentioned for it to be referenced on this page. Marikology 01:01, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, I was mostly asking because the "mentioned only" reference for Identity was removed, even though I'm pretty sure Oliver mentioned holding a summit in Europe. --Kanamekun 01:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think appearences of Clark, Chloe and at least Olivetr or John should be counted
- How about this we can use this guidline to count something as a JLA appearence.
-Clark, Oliver or Chloe encounter a problem. -1 or more JLA or JSA guest stars (John, Emil etc.) -In the end they team up and defeat the problem
This all happens in about every JLA appearence; Justice, Siren, Odessey, Doomsday, Absolute Justice, Checkmate and Savior.
how come victor is the only JLA member to appear twice.--NatDuv 19:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC) imo, I think Zatanna Zatara from Hex should be counted as a Justice League assosciate because at the end of hex she gave Oliver her phone number and said if he or his friends(which I think means the Justice League) ever face any supernatural threats, they should call her for help. Does anyone agrees with me?--User:Ironman29758 06:10, 03 May 2009
I agree with Ironman right above me. I think Zatanna should at least be cited as a part-time member. She has never been on a mission, but stated she would help if they wanted it.--B-Rock 22:08, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
What counts as a Justice League appearance for Season 11 comic[]
Now that we are in Season 11, and Bart Allen and Clark Kent(both JL members and Watchtower Agents) are appearing/teaming up in Haunted, how are we going to define an JL mission/team up for the comic? Should we do define like before (i.e:
-Clark, Oliver or Chloe encounter a problem.
-1 or more JLA or JSA guest stars (John, Bart, Emil etc.) -In the end they team up and defeat the problem
)
or should we change and adapt the guideline to fit season 11 and the characters(Chloe assign a mission to any agent of Watchtower who team up for that episode(Superman, Green Arrow, Impulse, etc) and how do we know if and when heroes introduced in season 11 officially(or unofficially) becomes a full time or part time member or an affiliate of the JL and how do we define it(example: Batman and Nightwing teaming up with Superman, Green Arrow, Watchtower and Lois in Detective and Martian Manhunter in Effigy.) Thank you for anyone who answers the question. --Ironman29758 (talk) 00:51, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
Justice League Wiki[]
Hey if anyone want to help me with the JLA Wiki I'm having a hard time putting it all together and I need a lot of help on many pages including templates. Thanks --MIK-EL 12:28, September 19, 2009 (UTC) User:MIK-EL
Depends. We already have a DC comics Wikia and this Smallville Wikia.
I'd Love to help you. My sister owns like three copies of the Dc Comics Encyclopedia.98.168.185.123 04:12, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
Stuart Campbell[]
is Stuart Campbell a member or atleast an associate.--Nat-Duv, the second to last son of krypton 21:55, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Name change "Proto-League".[]
It's not the official JLA, or JL. It doesn't have a name per se... Let's change the name to Proto-League.
Just a thought about the main picture.[]
Since Clark isn't an official member,wouldn't this be a more suited picture? --SuperBlahBlah 18:55, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
I agree! Clark isn't a official member, so let's change the main article pic. But, could someone find one with Black Canary on it? ~ J. A. R. Head
I don't think there is any official JL pics that include Black Canary,only Fan-Art. --SuperBlahBlah 00:02, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
i think clark is a member because he has gon on missons with them like in hex oliver said he and part were on a misson together
Could we PLEASE change the name!?[]
There is no Justice League in Smallville. The only official teams are the Justice Society of America and the Legion of Superheroes. We should change the name to "Proto-League". It only makes sence due to there being no official Justice League. J. A. R. Head 21:38, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
No, we shouldn't change the name because, in the Season 8 booklet that comes with the season (under the Odessy episode) they are called the JUSTICE LEAGUE and it shows a pic of GREEN ARROW, AQUAMAN, and BLACK CANARY. MIK-EL
name change[]
i agree clark even admititted that there name is a workin progress
Yea, Proto-League. There isn't a Justice League yet.
No, we shouldn't change the name because, in the Season 8 booklet that comes with the season (under the Odessy episode) they are called the JUSTICE LEAGUE and it shows a pic of GREEN ARROW, AQUAMAN, and BLACK CANARY.
The producers call it the Justice League because that's what it's supposed to be. But, technicly, it has no name. Proto-League is a more technical term for the team. There IS NOT a JL yet. The name should be changed. Clark even said it. J. A. R. Head 23:24, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
If there is no Justice Leauge why include the name "Leauge" at all!? I say keep it Justice Leauge the only other names we can use then are "SuperFriends" or "A work in progress"...Pshht..."proto-leauge"...next thing you'll know we'll call Oliver MR. GREEN JEANS!
Should we add Martian Manhunter and/or Clark as members or leave them as associates[]
Clark Kent: Doomsday and Abosoloute Justice shown him as a leader of the JLA now.
John Jones seeing Absoloute Justice and hearing the producers call John Jones as a part of the JLA I think we should call him a member now
i belive clark should be added as a member they said its his team so we should put him as member
Should we add preventing the Kandorinans from taking over the world.[]
since season 9 was all about Clark, Chloe, and Olliver who are JLA members trying to prevent the events in Pandorians from happening and JLA is appearing in the season finale. Ironman29758 20:49, May 5, 2010 (UTC)Ironman29758 04:48 5, May 2010(UTC)
- Let's wait til the JLA members appear in the final episode... Clark/Chloe/Oliver are in the main cast, so it's kinda hard to use their appearances as JLA appearances/missions! --Kanamekun 03:31, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
Female Members[]
Why are Black Canary, Supergirl and Zatanna the only female members of the JLA? I mean i know Wonder Woman can't be on due to the 2012 movie, but what abou Starfire or Marinna Loez?.98.168.185.123 04:19, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
Black Canary, Watchtower / Chloe Sullivan, Zatanna, Stargirl and Watchtower / Tess Mercer versus Clark, Green Arrow, Impulse, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Cyborg and Hawkman. That's 5 to 7. It's a pretty decent ratio compared to some incarnations of the League in television and comics. Also they are in Season 10, and the producers no doubt have strong demands from fans to include all their favorite guest stars and former regular characters. And so far a third of the League still haven't made speaking appearances this season. Glee - Australia 13:45, December 18, 2010 (UTC)
Hawkman and Stargirl[]
Hawkman and Stargirl were members of the JSA in Absolute Justice. I think (and based off of various episodes) that they are JLA members now. They both appeared in Salation as part of the team, in Isis the mention contacting Cater Hall aka Hawkman (they wouldn't know how to unless he was a JLA member).In Icarus, he and Courtney Whitmore aka Starigirl are shown as memebers of the League at Watchtower. I think they should be included in the members section. We didn't add John Jones or Clark until Absolute Justice and they are now both memebers, why can't Hawkman and Stargirl. We havn't heard of the JSA since AJ anyway, only the League. -- MIK-EL
- I agree -- RoR-El
Protection[]
I think we should protect this page like the Legion of Superheroes one. People keep editing the JLA members and making their names different and stuff like that. I think only wikia members should be allowed to edit it. - MIK-EL
Supergirl or Maiden of Might[]
Before the previous episode we knew that Kara 's superhero name was Maiden of Might but if you watch carefully a scene in Icarus where Lois reads a newspaper which shows heroes who are wanted, including Kara, you gonna see that below Kara's photo it is writen Supergirl instead of Maiden of Might as her superhero name. It is also written in the Notes of the episode.
Member List[]
Hawkman and Stargirl are not, and have not ever been, members of the team. Period. They are AFFILIATES, just like Emil Hamilton and Lois Lane.
Whoever added this is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hawkman and Stargirl have been members since Salvation and Clark made Lois an official member in Patriot. If you don't like the facts, then stop editing and watching the show. -- MIK-EL
You are wrong Lois Lane was never a member of the team, Clark just introduced her to the rest of the team and also I believe that Hawkman and Stargirl are just affiliates, not members...I think we should vote or something and we must consider to set this page under protection...--TG90
In Salvation, Clark tells Zod the his TEAM. Not teams, team singular. This means that they are all one team. Also, the whole JLA was at Hawkman's funeral. This means that he must have been a member, otherwise his old JSA teammembers would be there. Also, if Hawkman and Stargirl weren't members, then why were they at Lois and Clark's engagement party? Plus, Hawkman and Stargirl have both been JLA members in the comics, and are clearly members in the show as well. And on Lois not being a member, here is the quote from Patriot (you can find it on the 'Patriot' page):
Clark: Welcome to Watchtower -- the official headquarters of the home team.
Tess: Which you are clearly on now. Finally.
Lois: Is that a com-sat hook-up? I take back the whole "work wife" thing. Your satellite officially trumps my cellphone.
Tess: Forget it. From now, mi com-sat es su com-sat.
So, Lois is obviously a member, and so are Carter and Courtney. Hawkman and Stargirl were members of the JSA in Absolute Justice. I think (and based off of various episodes) that they are JLA members now. They both appeared in Salation as part of the team, in Isis the mention contacting Cater Hall aka Hawkman (they wouldn't know how to unless he was a JLA member).In Icarus, he and Courtney Whitmore aka Starigirl are shown as memebers of the League at Watchtower. I think they should be included in the members section. We didn't add John Jones or Clark until Absolute Justice and they are now both memebers, why can't Hawkman and Stargirl. We havn't heard of the JSA since AJ anyway, only the League. Oh, and another thing, Carter told Clark that A TEAM rose up to defeat Darkseid every time he came around. And, Dr. Fate told Clark that he would be the leader of the Silver Age (which Courtney is obviously in now) of heroes. Besides, Emil, Kara, Dr. Fate (and Hawkman and Stargirl back in Absolute Justice), and Mera are afficiates because they had other jobs as well and have not been shown with codename on the screen (they were also not on the wanted poster, well Supergirl was, but that's cause she was super-open with her hero work). So, these are my points, if no one has any to prove me wrong, then I think that it's save to say that they are all members.
-- MIK-EL
Agreed. Impulse, Zatanna, Aquaman, Black Canary, Cyborg never met Hawkman on screen, so if he wasn't a member of the team, I don't think they'd all attend a funeral for somebody they weren't team-mates and / or friends with. Also Stargirl was being consoled by Black Canary, and it seems Courtney doesn't have anyone else now that Carter is dead. I honestly think we need to remove the Justice Society of America subtitle, considering Stargirl and Hawkman are clearly considered members in the show, and the only other JSA member in Absolute Justice was Dr. Fate, who somehow I don't think will be joining anytime soon, what with being deceased and all. Glee - Australia 13:53, December 18, 2010 (UTC)
Delete Affiliates section[]
I propose we delete the Affiliates section. If they're not officially on the team, why are they on this page? The main justification I can see for having Affiliates on the page is if they might join the team in the future... but in that case, that's speculation and we don't allow it.
Thoughts? --Kanamekun 17:10, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. - BatteryB7 17:15, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
- Well, if it will stop the crazy Conner debacle, I also agree. --SuperBlahBlah 17:33, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with Kanamekun, BatteryB7 and SuperBlahBlah about deleting that section. --RoR-El 13:33, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
- Well, if it will stop the crazy Conner debacle, I also agree. --SuperBlahBlah 17:33, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
I added Conner because he is the one affiliate who actually expressed intrest in joining. I also think protecting him from Lionel is indeed a mission, as it involved 3 members, and at the end of the day, he was sent to stay with Martha Kent, who is listed as an affiliate. I think the affiliates do have a place on the page, but to prevent confusion, rename it "allies'. This acknowledges they are not offical members, but are indeed in good with the league.
This is all a matter of opinion, and as such, I leave it to you, an admin, to have the final say. 68.162.35.29 17:20, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
- How about instead of an Affiliate section, we add a bullet in the Notes section that mentions that Conner expressed interest in joining? --Kanamekun 17:31, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
- I do think we should delete the section, but it would still be a good idea to have a list of allies somewhere. But what do you guys think about protecting Conner from Lione? Was it a mission or not? It involved 3 members and Martha, who at least for right now, is listed as an affiliate.
- 68.162.35.29 17:38, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
- Has an actual roster been given? It seems more like an argument over something that was never clearly identified on the show. Maybe you should just change the name from affiliates to something else. If I'm not mistaken they (except Conner) have teamed up with different heroes on at least one occasion. On another note, its not like the world (aka smallville universe) knows that there is an organized team of heroes anyway. --Superman Fan 19:07, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
- How long is the Affiliates section going to stay on the page? - BatteryB7 20:32, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
- I would like to know as well. I have no problem with Conner NOT being on the affiliates list, it's mire that the list itself is based of conjectures. I would like to know why some don't consider Protecting Conner from Lionel a mission, please state so here. Is it becaue it wasn't a formal mission? If you look at the list, there are plenty of impromptu missions. In Patriot for example, AC's actions were not sanctioned by the league until they learned the VRA's true intent.
- Why the "wonder twins" are on the list? First Conner and now them? seriously ¬¬? Who is next, shelby the super dog? --RoR-El 17:13, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
- I'll pull this part of my quote up here. The only actual allies to have worked with the league would be Dr. Fate (Just Dr. Fate, having a separate section for the JSA is redundant, for the only 3 members that were involved are already listed on the page), Martha, Mera, and the Suicide Squad. The rest really shouldn't be on the list. And someone should at least, for the love of God, remove the Blunder Twins. --S.B.B 21:32, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Why the "wonder twins" are on the list? First Conner and now them? seriously ¬¬? Who is next, shelby the super dog? --RoR-El 17:13, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
Should protecting Conner be considered a mission?[]
No, protecting Conner Kent was not a field-mission for two reasons one, because only Clark Kent participated in it and two, because it was not confirmed in the episode. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:37 PM, April 17th 2011
Actually, Clark was the only "field member". Also participating were "support members" Tess Mercer and Lois Lane, and they sent him to "affiliate" Martha Kent. Second of all, Oliver was the only member involved in "Capture Lex Luthor" Also, "Protecting the Watchtower and stop Clark Luthor" wasn't confirmed as a mission on screen either. Conner also says he "Appreciates all you've guys done for me." 68.162.35.29 23:07, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
Alright, I see it now. Sure, feel free to leave it up on the page because you were absolutely right in what you said about how yes, Clark was the only field-member, but there were others, Tess and Lois, who took-part in the mission on the side, as affiliates. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:20 PM, April 17th 2011
- Actually, Oliver asked Clark for help to catch Lex in Bride but he delayed the mission until after the wedding. Besides they had been trying to stop Lex since Season Six. In Luthor, Tess called Lois to the Watchtower and we clearly saw her trying to contact the other members to help stop Clark Luthor. When he began to destroy the Watchtower, the members of the team present tried to protect the place for obvious reasons. The Connor thing it is not a mission and can not be considered as such because the league was not involved at any time. It was a matter for Clark Kent, Tess and Lois were busy trying to stop Lionel´s charade and that's the only part in which the League is involved in the episode. And the comments Conner made related only to he wanting be a hero in the future. So I vote to NOT place Connor mision in the Missions section. -- RoR-El, 6:37 PM, April 17th 2011
- Hey guys... this one seems like quite a stretch to include as a "mission". Clark, Tess, and Lois work together a lot... not everything they do counts as an official JL mission. And nothing in the episode made this sound like an official mission. --Kanamekun 00:18, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Then prove Lionel a fake shouldn't be a mission, as it only included Tess and Lois. By those standards, Chloe and Lois "pimping" the Blur videos would be a missionLastsonofkrypton 01:31, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Since it hasn't been deleted yet, I also got rid of the "Affiliates" and created the broader title of allies, which includes Conner. If there are any other characters who have interacted with them, feel free to add them. I plan on adding the Wonder Twins soon.
- Regarding the mission section: I think we should limit it to actual League involved missions. With the exception of "Protect Conner" and "Prove Lionel is a fake" (Those should be removed), the rest are fine and should stay. As for the allies section, the only actual allies to have worked with the league would be Dr. Fate (Just Dr. Fate, having a separate section for the JSA is redundant, for the only 3 members that were involved are already listed on the page), Martha, Mera, and the Suicide Squad. The rest really shouldn't be on the list. --SuperBlahBlah 04:55, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with SuperBlahBlah on this one.-- RoR-El, 12:07 PM, April 18th 2011
- Done. The mission section now only contains definitive missions.Lastsonofkrypton 18:41, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I think we all agree now that only DEFINITVE missions and allies that have DEFINATIVELY helped the league are to be included on this page. But didn't the Wonder Twins help? They met Clark and Chloe, visited the Watchtower, and helped save Lois and incriminate Ray Sacks.
- 68.162.35.29 21:53, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Regarding the mission section: I think we should limit it to actual League involved missions. With the exception of "Protect Conner" and "Prove Lionel is a fake" (Those should be removed), the rest are fine and should stay. As for the allies section, the only actual allies to have worked with the league would be Dr. Fate (Just Dr. Fate, having a separate section for the JSA is redundant, for the only 3 members that were involved are already listed on the page), Martha, Mera, and the Suicide Squad. The rest really shouldn't be on the list. --SuperBlahBlah 04:55, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
Booster Gold and Blue Beetle?[]
I haven't added them as the episode hasn't aired yet, but has it been stated if they'll officially join? Or will they be classified as allies?
- Let's wait until the episode airs, so we can see what is definitively stated in the episode. Thanks! --Kanamekun 22:20, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
Allies[]
I personally feel that, in Smallville, an ally should be defined as an individual who aids an organization more than once, and people, much like Booster, who barely knew about the team, in this case the Justice League, should be classified at best, as an acquaintance. Sure, he did imprve Watchtower's central mainframe, but he barely knew them and he only appeared in one episode. -- ImperiexSeed, 12:11 PM, May 6th 2011
Anyone else disappointed...[]
That the League didn't help fight off Darkseid? And that they didn't even get their name (the Justice League) before the series ended? --Kanamekun 03:30, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
That was the least of my disappointments. --Revan's Exile 03:47, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that was a disappointment, but not seeing Conner appear, was a even bigger one for me; he is Superboy after all. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:54 AM, May 16th 2011
- Indeed. I hoped they'd at least make an appearance via videoscreen like in 'Salvation' (Didn't even have to have them all, just a couple of members *Cough*Impulse*Cough*), but I guess the finale was kinda already jam packed with guest stars. At least Manhunter got a mention along with a little shout out to the comic-book Watchtower. --S.B.B 13:27, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
- Yah why not give the League their name and a shout out like Manhunter got? That wouldn't have cost any extra budget. --Kanamekun 15:23, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
Name change to Justice League of America[]
It just dawned on me, if America wasn't in the name of the team, then there would be no A in the JLA Logo. Since the logo clearly says JLA, that leads me to think the name is League of America, not just the Justice League.
Lastsonofkrypton 19:32, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
Martha?[]
Martha is an official ally of the League? That seems like a stretch to me... --Kanamekun 16:23, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
I agree it does seem odd--Voyagersknight 18:30, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
Martian's picture[]
Martian Manhunter's pic troubles me. We have kinda naturally asumed that the two-second flash image of his green form seeing in Absolute Justice is John's real form. Now, I'm cool with that but there is couple of problems using that image as profile picture: It was shown only once and it was very brief sequence and every other time Martian is seeng as african-american male. So could we asume that that the human form is his preferred form? If so, using an image of his green form seems wrong to me. The human form is simply more recognizable then the martian form. Any thoughts? - BatteryB7 15:52, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
- I couldn't agree more! I think people are posting his Martian form b/c that's closer to how he appears in the comics. But he's definitely mostly seen in human form, and I do think his pic here should reflect that. --Kanamekun 16:17, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
- That photo of the Martian Manhunter's true form has troubled me as well, so I agree with you too, BatteryB7. Although John reverted to his Martian form briefly in Absolute Justice, he nearly appeared overall in his human form in Smallville. For simplicity, his profile photo should reflect his more prominent form in the tv series over his true form. On a side note, Clark's profile photo seems too close-up, so I suggest we replace it with another photo of the same screenshot that is a longer shot. Any thoughts? 76.212.206.172 12:36, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
- The thing is, J'onns martian form wasn't shown "once" has been shown numerous times besides Absolute Justice. It was in shadow in Static and Labryinth, and also appeared in Justice and Doom. It wasn't a one of thing in Absolute Justice, that's just when we got the clearest view of his martian form
- John Jones is the "disguise" and the current pic shows him as he truly is. This reason is the same as why we don't have Clark in glasses as the main pic on his pahe.
70.111.107.246 20:07, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's not quote simple as that. Clark clearly stated that the glasses and the whole "mild-mannered reporter" act is a disguise, unlike John who didn't give any comments about his appearence if I remember correctly. For all we know John preferred human form over his Martian form since we never saw the form even when he was in comfortable environment. I mean there wasn't any need to appear human in front of Clark if John didn't want to. In Clark's case, he stated that he doesn't like wearing glasses and he discarded them immediately when was in comfortable environment. By comfortable environment, I mean with friends and family, generally any place where one doesn't need to have a disguise. Also Clark didn't commonly wear glasses on screen, unlike John who was in human form almost all the time. I know it could be a budget question but still I'm only going by what was shown on screen.
- Justice and Doom was an animated comic book serial but about those alleged appearances - in Static when John first appeared, he was covered in the shadows so how can you tell that he was in Martian form? I really don't recall seeing his Martian form in Labyrinht? - BatteryB7 20:43, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
Hey guys - I do think this is a fair question for the John Jones page. However, when appearing as a member of the League, John Jones spent most of his time in his human form. So that's what we should show here. --Kanamekun 23:12, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
Clark's picture[]
I know this is going to cause outrage among some people but I'm just gonna come out and say it: Clark's current picture really doesn't meet the quality stantards. The picture quality is low and the composition is really bad, and the pic really sticks out from the crowd. Does anyone else see a problem with this? Now, we all know that Clark is Superman know and I'm not trying to say that there should't be an image of Supes, but the fact is our picture options are low. I think we should consider adding the old red jacket Blur image back. Any thoughts? - BatteryB7 14:11, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. Given that the series ended (*tear*) before Superman officially joined the league, I think we should just stick with the Blur. (Picture, name, info, etc.) - [S.B.B] 15:24, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
Rename[]
Hahaha sorry Battery. I think that we should rename this to Justice League of America. There is an A in their logo. ------XV DEaD ShOT xV 09:11, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- The team was official unnamed when the series ended, wasn't it? According to the page, only official episode descriptions have used the phrase Justice League, so I think that should be the name of the article. --BatteryB7 09:21, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, you are right. They should not be changed by speculation. :) XV DEaD ShOT xV 09:32, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
Cleanup[]
To prevent a looming revert war, please leave your questions and cleanup suggestions here. --BatteryB7 20:18, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- Unlike other members of the League, Clark had a number of different codenames and I don't see any reason why they should not be included. Adding a few extra names doesn't really make it any more complicated in my opinion. --BatteryB7 13:21, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
- It's more of a physical appearence thing, having all those names up there looks very unorganized to me. Nat-Duv, the second to last son of krypton 03:03, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
- Also, Impulse has more than one codename too, but only Impulse is included. Nat-Duv, the second to last son of krypton 03:05, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
pictures[]
why is the pictures of Superman (Clark), Manhunter (John), and Arrow (Oliver) from the comic book, when real flesh and blood actors played them? Chasemarc (talk) 04:34, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
More than likely it's because those photos are of the three in the current costumes (as well as in a Martian appearance for John) they wear on the Justice League in Season 11, wheras using ones of the actors would be out of date. 108.247.151.191 06:01, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
I think we can switch black canary picture to her season eleven appearance. And speedy and blue bettle should be added as allies because they are seen in watchtower files and are listed as watchtower agents in hollow
Former members[]
Why are Black Canary, Cyborg, Aquaman, Dr. Hamilton, Stargirl and Zatanna listed as 'former members'? I don't remember them leaving the team and it doesn't say that they did, nor do their personal pages say so.--RA (talk) 15:18, December 26, 2018 (UTC)
- There are two reasons. First, Smallville: Continuity Issue 4 portrays the Justice League as having a roster of Clark, Tess, Oliver, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Batman and Green Lantern. Second, while writing season 11, Bryan Q. Miller released a statement on Twitter, that the team we had been seeing since season 6 isn't the Justice League (but rather the "Watchtower Network", as it's frequently called in season 11). So, Dinah, Victor, AC, Emil, Stargirl (who joined the Teen Titans in season 11) and Zatanna were never members of the actual Justice League (which isn't formed until the above mentioned issue of Smallville: Continuity). The problem is that the team they were members of is called the "Justice League", so many times on this wiki, that it'd probably be an impossible task to correct every reference.KylieMfever (talk) 16:18, December 26, 2018 (UTC)
- I want to do a bit of a gradual overhaul of this page, starting with the state of the team's "membership" as we left them in Season 11. Bryan Q. Miller just stated on Twitter that it is still very much a Justice League Unlimited-type situation, with members like Aquaman, Cyborg, Canary, Zatanna, etc. still a part of this team, with "moon Tess" still calling the shots from Watchtower. That tracks, since it wouldn't make much sense for them to just suddenly no longer be a part of the team. There is no actual text/dialogue telling us the reason the particular seven heroes had a statue made for them, nor is there evidence that the other members were disbanded. I am inferring that the seven just exist as a more public-facing group, for diplomacy.
- Grahamtracey (talk) 20:04, January 7, 2020 (UTC)
- Which is to say, while the "Justice League" name is made official in "Continuity," it is still the same team, and an evolution of the Watchtower Network with a formal name (finally) for the public, as supported by Miller's confirmation.
- Grahamtracey (talk) 20:07, January 7, 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, it makes more sense for everyone to still be members (the seven are probably just the core group). And, yes, this article needs a bit of an overhaul. The In the Comics section (which is about 14 pages (A4) long) is a bit of an overkill (anyone that interested in the comic book history of the Justice League, is probably just going to check out the DC Database wiki). And some listed Missions (ex. Tess saving Mary and her father) would likely count as solo adventures/saves, rather than something that the team did.KylieMfever (talk) 09:23, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
- KylieMfever I think this discussion still stands as to the status of members, and the clarification from Bryan Q. Miller, no? (talk) 03:26, August 15, 2023 (UTC)
- I have reservations about listing Kara under Active Members, Jjbittenbinders . At the end of Argo, she states: "It's the first time since before my parents put me on that ship that I've felt... at peace. The only mission I have now is my own." She is reffered to as a Legionnaire throughout "Argo," and I have doubts that when she finally became free of a team or a cause or the Kandorians that she would jump right back into another organized group. I believe she falls more directly under Allies. In "Alien," she is seen grouped/working with two other non-team members, Superboy and Hank Henshaw. I believe they are referred to on the Watchtower Network as "Freelancers," as both Chloe and Lois are shown to be considered on-screen throughout Season 11. Freelancers would be considered occasional Allies, like Lois who is a reporter and helps sometimes, or Chloe who now works for the D.E.O., or members from other teams like the Titans or the Legion. I think Kara is a solo-agent/Freelancer.
- That all being said, I don't know that "Former Members" is the most appropriate section. Perhaps for Bart and Carter, but Freelancers more appropriately encompasses, Emil, Lois, Chloe, etc.
- The whole page is kind of a mess honestly, but I'm going to work on it the next few days.
- Grahamtracey (talk) 20:55, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
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- Fair enough, re Kara. I considered that line from Argo, but figured her role in Continuity could be considered rejoining the team. I’m fine with reclassifying her as an ally, though.
- Jjbittenbinders (talk) 14:07, January 15, 2020 (UTC)